The Feinics Gate Podcast - Issue 161 - ☘️ Green Beer & Dark Legends

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Phoenix Power What's up, everybody? Erin Gobra. It's almost that time of the year where we're all Irish in some way. Oh yes, any little Irish speck of blood you can find. Or even if you don't. Exactly. Everyone is Irish in their hearts. Now how dare you as an Irish woman or I have Irish descent. No, I don't agree with that statement. I mean valid. As someone who is also of Irish descent, this is very true. But that is the slogan that ends up everywhere on this 17th on. March 17th every year, three days after my birthday, everybody decides to go out and be drunk and disorderly.

Exactly. And tell everyone that they're just Irish if if they want to be we're. Just Irish for the day. We're. Yeah. What? Doesn't this kiss me? I'm Irish. Whoa, kiss me. I'm Irish. But, you know, ranting aside, how you doing? What's up, everybody to girl Jade Phoenix? We're here. We're queer and I don't care what you think about it. But as always, emotional. Damage. We had a couple minutes of that. We're fine. Yeah, it's going to be OK. We're going to recoup after thinking about Chantopolis there.

Yeah, but you know, you can hear lavender. Where the hell? Have you been? Luca, you know, Crimson's hiding in the background over there.

Where? Are you? Is it bad? All I thought about was the Kool-aid guy. I was the I was thinking snap into a slim. Jim yeah, I was thinking. Oh yeah. Whatever, it is fucking sense. Were you the kool-aid guy or were you macho man? Macho Man. The big macho man Macho. Macho cheese. Yeah. Oh yeah. Hey, baby, what's up? What's up? How's it going? It's. Going. It's persisting. We're moving forward. We are, well, we are talking about, if you haven't figured out, we will be talking about Saint Patrick's Day and all the associations with it because this podcast is going out not only the day before my birthday, but CC four days before Saint Patrick's Day, Yes.

We are so this. Is going out on Friday. The 13th Have fun with us I. Thought we were talking about Saint Peter's Day. What's Saint Peter? What is Saint Peter's Day? Yeah, tell us about Saint Peter Crimson. Well, Crimson, now you piqued our interest. You could at least make something. Easy. I'm pretty sure there is an actual Saint Peter's Day. I'm pretty sure there is. I mean, there's very. There's a lot of various St. days anyway, especially in different cultures. I think there's like a St. day like almost every day of the year.

Oh 100% every single St. technically has a beatified St. day. Yeah. So like you have the feast of. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure he's there amongst the ether. I'm pretty sure there's like. A Saint Joseph's Day. Oh yeah, there it is, Saint. Joseph's day is right before Easter, yeah. That's what I'm saying. There's many, there's many very St. days, but I don't think it's every day of the year. I think it's like possibly like maybe every month, every week. No, I'm thinking Saint Joseph's day is definitely around Easter time or may happen actually during Lent if I believe because they have the Saint Joseph caked.

Yes, that only come out around that time. So I'm pretty sure it's actually coming up soon. Oh, I think it is too. And the other thing is like a lot of Saints have St. days, like days of like specific days of worship, but they're not necessarily on the calendar. That's what I'm saying. Hey, this is Saint Peter's day. It's oh, I know about the St. and I know the Saints specific day kind of thing. I know in South America they actually have various St. days. Again, it just varies on, you know, culture, beliefs and all that.

We have you. You you heard the podcast Kitties. They got the zoomies. They. Yes, there was a war. They're. They're at war with each. Other it was very Mufasa and Scar. Yes, it was like I was watching the real life Lion King happen right before my eyes. I mean, you were. I was, you were. At least there's no wildebeest. The. King. Instead, all you hear is. But what's interesting about that Crimson is would you say there's any kind of like in Portugal, a St. day that kind of has a similar equivalent to Saint Patrick's Day, even if it's not Saint Patrick's?

Specifically, no, I don't think so. I mean, what the only thing I can possibly think of is, well, it's not a St. day per SE, but it's I know they have like the pending I'm. So sorry, distracting you guys because what you can't see out there, everyone in in the Phoenix nation is I just pulled a chunk of the Orange Menace, AKA Rocky Meal Boa's fur out of Eclipse's mouth.

Then he just walked in here. He has this proud little tuft on the side of his face and he just looks up at me and he's like. Look at me, mother. Mother. I've did Mother look at my trophy, Mother I've. I've bitten your favorite son. Mother I've killed. Am I your favorite now? Mother AM. I your. Favorite now, Do you love me now? Mother God, I do. But no, like I was saying. Sorry. Yeah, No, it's all good. Like I was saying like at least with I mean the only like I'm pretty sure there are, but it like put something that's equivalent, but as far as I know, like that's popular.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything, but the only thing that I can even think of that's even like celebrated like as it like huge thing is Fatima and that's about it. Just. Feast of Fatima. Yeah, Feast of Fatima. Which people usually go and take a very long stroll? Well the thing about the Saints days is they're never given when the Saint is alive. Oh, never so very rarely. So Saint Patrick is believed to or or is documented to have lived from the year 385 to 46180. So that obviously thousands of years ago, for hundreds of years, no.

A little under. Over 1500 years ago, like about a. Little under a little. Little over 1000 years. Yeah. A little over 1000 years ago, this guy was alive and he is exalted as the patron St. of Ireland for multiple reasons, but mostly because the Catholic Church wanted to overtake the people of Ireland, the pagans, the druids, everything that, you know that. And they were dry because the Catholics needed to control everything, needed to drive out these people. Yeah. So that is why they say that. Oh, Saint Patrick's famous for.

Driving the snakes out of Ireland? Yeah. Religious imperialism? Yeah. But. You know, so this is a man that lived over 1500 years ago, but his Saints Day was not declared until the 17th. Century, no I believe. Like I don't even think there's any even modernish Day Saints where they became a St. before their death. Maybe Mother Teresa. Most. Like, but I think that's the only one. Like the rest of them, you're dead. You then go through the process of beatification, you become a St. and then you get an associated in more times than not an associated specific Saints Day.

But for this, it's this was made an official Christian feast day in the early 1700s. And it's observed by the Catholic Church, the Anglican Communion, which is, you know, known as the Church of Ireland and the Eastern Orthodox Church. And Lutheran's also observe this as well, which is, you know, not to say that other denominations don't recognize this is Saint Day because everybody uses Saint Patrick's Day is an excuse to party. Exactly. Everybody uses it as an excuse to put really cheap alcohol inside of really cheap.

Beer. And it honestly makes me want to vomit. I have. Vomited green beer. Never drank it. I never want. To listen, listen, listen. It doesn't do anything to the taste of the beer. OK, OK. It it doesn't do anything to the taste of the beer, but it does it they do only put it in the cheaper beer. So like, course, yeah, you know. Michelob, I guess. Yeah, drink that shit. Because like, they're not putting, they're not going to put it in Guinness. No, that doesn't make any sense. First off, it would even show up in Guinness.

It would not. Yeah, OK. And on top of that, Guinness is is is touted as an Irish beer anyway, even though it's bottled here. It is bottled here. And fun fact, when I was in Ireland for my cousin's wedding right we I actually came to learn while being in Ireland that they don't consider Guinness like Irish beer. They consider their staple Irish beer Murphy's. Yeah, because it's because Guinness is an American beer. Yeah, and it kind of the same way Corona because of just the advertising. The same way Corona is actually considered is they're like, oh it's a Mexican beer, No, it's American.

It's it, you know what's funny? I think what it what it is and I mean if we do a little bit more research, we can actually see maybe it comes from rooted from, but it's still made here regardless. Well. Yeah, we. Started here. Regardless, the Irish stout is a state is a it's a special kind of brew. You have to be able you have to do it a certain type of way to get that thickness that that that that consistency, that taste. It's not like typical fucking piss beer. This is a deep dark amber, beautiful, delicious.

Now I'm thirsty color and you know, like this is this is a process that is not the same as brewing. Coors Light, Yeah, no, totally different. And it's actually really fun because if you, any of our listeners out there, whether you're in Ireland or are going to go to Ireland, ask for a baby Guinness. Yeah, baby Guinnesses are the best. I love them. They're obviously not made from Guinness, but they're meant to resemble Guinness and they're actually super, super delicious. And if you're like me and can't really do hard liquor, it's a good like itty bitty little shot that you can do that won't make you sick as like a Jägermeister.

So you can still party with all the the best of them, but you're not puking your guts out after a baby Guinness. Or at least in my experience, Jager does not do kind to my stomach. No, Jaeger is nothing but glorified cough medicine. Thank you, vile vile. Stuff, it's the same like anybody that sits there and says, Oh yeah, I love Jaeger are the same people that probably sat there and said that Goldschlager was good for you. Oh my God, yeah, 100%. Or there are. College frat guys who are still frat guys in their 50s.

I love, I love how Crimson said. They'll be sitting there going what? No, I was going to say is just like you got those same folk and people that are probably even out there saying it's like, oh, you need to cure a cold, have some of this. I'm just like, yeah, no. No, no, no. No, no, I will not knock Jager being good when you have a cold. No, you want you want to clean out a cold moonshine. Moonshine I love. How evil, Crimson giggled. Bear especially from the grape the the the wine grapes. If you know that process, you can make moonshine out of wine grapes.

We jumped out of what window? Not just that, you make them after they've been squeezed and then you literally cook them. And I say cook them in a sense of like steam them, and that steam turns into the moonshine. Well, that's in. The new every dash. Look at these freaking like state secrets that Crimson sharing. State secrets. This is like a country. Exactly. But yeah, which state am I talking about? One will never know. Oh, wait, don't know. Jersey. No, that's actually something that at least from, I mean, I can't really 100% confirm.

All I know is is that I see Portuguese people do it, have not have yet to see an American do it. Not saying they haven't, but yeah, this. Country was founded on prohibition bro like. Listen, I've only seen it done in my country, so. My country tis of thee. We're all fucked. Get over it. We're done. Let's go. But yes, Crimson is out here spilling secrets from Portugal, so really make sure that no one on the Airways is listening while you're trying to renew your passport, my friend. Yep. But the another thing that that that is kind of fun because Saint Patrick's Day does fall during the Lenten season.

Yes. So a lot of people who are pretty like strict people like follow like the Lent thing. They give up something. A lot of times it's alcohol. A lot of times it's like, you know, a vice of theirs. And at the same time, it's also, you're expected to be following pretty strict traditions with Lent, But they considered Saint Patrick's Day and it's a reason to, for a day lift the restrictions of Lent. Like you were allowed to rebel and, you know, celebrate and stuff like that. Considering how close it is to Easter.

Yes. Does that count for murder? Maybe considering I mean people get drunk and do dumb shit maybe. I mean, exactly. I was going to say like. It's not The Hunger Games. Yeah, it's not like, well, it's like the Purge jinx. You owe me Guinness. No, actually, no. You owe me a Murphy's. There you go. You done goof fucked up. I fucked up y'all. I don't even know where I can get a fucking Murphy's here in the states. I honestly have not seen them because they're really because I'm not a huge. I'm also don't drink a lot of really dark beer.

Like I'm a lighter beer gal and I really like IPS. So that's. Where you and me are very. Different so I actually would have no idea if they even had it here just because I didn't drink it when I was there. I tried it. Too dark for me, same with Guinness. That's fair. And then so I don't really pay attention to the darker beers from like a tap house in the menu. Absolutely valid. I mean, honestly, like people like Saint Patrick's Day because it's an excuse to get out, have a beer that drunk, you know, not, not just like let's we keep saying get drunk, but like it's just an excuse to get out.

And. Party. Oh yeah, 100%. You don't need to get drunk to party. No, I mean an excuse. It's it's been highly commercialized over the years. Obviously, you know, the Irish dysphoria has become very much like everybody's Irish on Saint Patrick's Day. Doesn't matter matter where you come from. And that's cool, you know, but also people need to understand that this whole tradition is not a good tradition. No, it's not. It was really a reflection of how the Church was trying to overtake Europe at the time, and they were fully expecting to force those religious practices through use of violence and even coercion.

I mean we're talking about a St. that literally the all that we know about this St. is most likely written by himself. Oh 100% if not fellow Catholics. No, it it literally says that much of what we know about Saint Patrick comes from the Declaration, which was written by Patrick himself. Yeah, so. Who knows what other little Gray areas might be missing in that history? Yeah, they're cleaning like so. What we do know about the man himself is that he was born in Roman Britain. Roman occupied Britain in the 4th century, and he was born into a very wealthy family.

His father was a Deacon, his grandfather was a priest. And according to the declaration, at the age of 16, he was supposedly kidnapped by Irish Raiders and taken as a slave to Ireland to what they would refer to as Gaelic Ireland, where they still spoke the, the, you know, the native language and did all the paganism and all the fun stuff, you know. And it says that he spent six years there working as a shepherd. And it was during that time where he found God. Was he a son of a shepherd? No, he was the son of a preacher man, quite literally, since his father was a Deacon and his grandfather was a priest, he's the son of a preacher man.

I'm I'm hoping for what I said. I hope people out there understood my reference. Yeah, probably. I hope so. I'm not going out there, please. As you were retelling this, all that was coming into my head were all the years of Catholic school, and I'm sure you had the same thing. No, because I only went to Catholic High School. That's right, Catholic High School. But because I also went to like Catholic like grammar school and middle school. Not me. They used to play literally, I'm like getting flashbacks of these videos.

They used to play in the library of like the history of Saint Patrick where, like, you know, they were made by these like, Catholic Christian film studios. And they told the stories of all the different Saints that I was having like vivid flashbacks to like 90s style cartoon Saint Patrick being captured by the Irish, like. According to the declaration, it says that God told Patrick to flee to the coast where a ship would be waiting to take him home. Yep, I remember that too after. Making his way home, Patrick went on to become a priest and according to the traditions, he returned to Ireland to convert the Pagan Irish to Christianity.

The declaration says that he spent many years evangelizing the northern half of Ireland and converted thousands. Tradition holds that he died on the 17th of March and was buried a down Patrick. Over the following centuries, many legends have grown up around Patrick and he has become Ireland's foremost St. Because we weren't allowed to say anything otherwise.

I know, you know, and that's one of those things that like, it took a lot, like Christianity took a lot from the Irish culture. They like almost tried to eradicate a lot of the cultural things that came along with traditional Ireland. Don't get me started. Yep, that could be a whole other podcast. Listen, I'm fighting very hard not to have the Irish Lil go into my voice because it happens when I get very angry. Valid. So for me it's just it's like there are so many lies. Like one of the big lies is that he drove the snakes of Ireland and that the snakes of Ireland were the pagans.

That's not actually true. No, the the snakes of Ireland were not anything other than people that just didn't want to convert to. Christianity exactly like they were just. It was not paganisms, like it wasn't the, the Gaul or the Gaelic or or the OR the, you know, whatever. It was literally just people that opposed Christianity being in Ireland. Or literal things. Yeah. Well, no, because kind of the climate, yeah, does not have it does not. It's not going. To do something wouldn't satisfy, no. You know, so and like, and here's the thing, I'm an American born Irish.

Like I've never been to Ireland. I want to yeah, I want to go home. I want to see like the country of my birth. I have a I'm from one of the oldest families, AKA clans in Ireland, pre Christianity. Like we I'm descended from the first King himself of Ireland and. I know almost nothing about my culture that I haven't previously researched, trying to find out where I came from. So Saint Patrick's Day for me was growing up as a kid, just a fun day to be like, OK, well, you know, everybody's cool. They're oh, cool.

My culture is being on celebration. And then as I got older, I learned more and I was like, oh, Oh, no, this is not, this is not fun for me anymore. And then being in the fire department for the many years that I worked in the fire department and the fire department, being heavily Irish or was traditionally, they take Saint Patrick's Day pretty fucking seriously. So like it was not, it's weird because on one hand, I want to be able to go out there and celebrate and be the one of the peoples that are just like, yay, I'm going to get drunk or I'm going to eat fucking cabbage and, and fucking whatever.

I'm going to eat the sour bread. I'm going to eat the, the corned beef hash. I'm going to eat all the stuff that like they claim is like for the Irish people. And it's like, no, we like no, no. And then at the same time, I'm like, do you people understand the culture that's, that was murdered because of this? Like do you understand that the the the symbols that we've lost, like the Irish, the the native language of Ireland is. Is dying, yeah. It's almost like people are trying to reclaim it, try to trying to bring it back, trying to bring it back into schools.

That's been a big thing. They've been trying to do that. They're trying. I mean, England still owns half my country. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. A lot of it is just like the struggle of the imperialism have exactly been in so many different hands of imperialism that so many things that made people So what made the things authentic to Ireland really were snatched up and taken away. Not like we were given a choice. Exactly. When you think of Americanized Saint Patrick's Day, right? Yeah, a lot of it is done in mockery of the Irish.

We were The Americans were entirely cruel to Irish immigrants. Like literally. Irish need not apply signs across Manhattan like it. They use it a lot. Like one of my favorite books for example is The Side of Paradise by F Scott Fitzgerald. And there is actually an entire passage where he talks about how the rich elites are partying and the whole idea of it is just to make fun of the Irish. It's true and how it's all just to bastardize the Irish tradition in a way for them to be able to be blatantly racist.

That's very true, without really facing very many consequences. It's so present day celebrations here that have been greatly influenced by those that, you know, the Irish dysphoria, which you know, obviously the great influx we which we call Black 47 was in 1847, the Irish potato famine hit its peak. Yes. And the reason why it's called Black 47 is when about between the famine death toll and the exodus of the Irish people, about 70% of the entire population left Ireland or died.

So the entire country was left like maybe 30% of people that stayed or survived and of the people that weren't dead and that came here, they were treated worse than because slavery was still a thing when the Irish first started to immigrate here. But even after the Civil War and because a lot of the Irish would came from Ireland and was immediately put into the civil the the armies for the Civil War. Yep. I actually when I was doing research on my family, found a cousin that immigrated here in the early 1800s.

Like I think they came around 1857 or something like that, maybe 18-60 something and they were immediately drafted into the Northern Army and that's how they got their citizenship. But I don't think they survived the war. So but there was, there was 1 member of my family that fought in the war for the North here. And then even after, you know, the N 1 and the slaves were liberated and everybody got their freedom, the Irish were still treated worse than former. Slaves. Oh, yes, Like, it's pretty crazy.

Like a lot of our American history comes upon, hey, if you help us fight this war, you're going to have equal rights and you're going to be a citizen. And it's your your fast track to becoming a citizen. And they're not. Only for either agreements not being honored or for the treatment to be even worse. Yeah. I mean, you think of the Tuskegee Airmen in a different kind of context. That's exactly what happened to them. They were fighting for a nation that they didn't even fully have the same civil rights.

Yeah. Only for now, in our current political climate, for them to be chastised and talked down on to this day by our current orange in charge. We don't talk about the Cheeto. We don't not, but it's very similarly from that same vein. No, it's true. History repeating itself in a lot of scary ways. A. Lot of scary ways, like people like there's a lot of criticism facing Saint Patrick's Day too, because a lot of it like, you know, again, the Irish dysphoria, Yep, comes and like 19th century caricatures of the Irish gave the leprechaun stereotype.

Yep. And people to this day dress up as a leprechaun, or what the old stereotype of these racist caricatures were from the 19th century. Oh, 100%. I remember in school we used to make little leprechaun hats. Like, they would have us make little hats in, like, kindergarten that would, like, go on your head for Saint Patrick's Day. And that was the cute little fun thing you did for the Saint Patrick's Day class party. Yeah. But it's cool because the Ancient Order of Hibernians actually campaigned, in a successful campaign, mind you, up until 2014, that stopped major American retailers from selling novelty merchandise that promoted negative Irish stereotypes.

So you can't they, they successfully said, Hey, cut your fucking shit. We're not, we're not this. Don't, don't do that. Exactly. And that's cool. That's pretty fucking cool. Like win for that. But like even the Irish themselves in Ireland do not celebrate Saint Patrick's Day the way that they we celebrated here. Yeah, no way. They actually call it plastic pattiness. I kind of love that. It's where foreigners appropriate and misrepresent Irish culture, claim Irish identity and enact Irish stereotypes.

Yep. And I want like, and again, I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but why is it a problem when every other culture race people say don't take my stuff but it's OK to do it to the Irish? Why? Why is it OK for that? Why is it OK for anybody to sit there and be like, oh, look at the Irish, but I can't say racism to that? No, it's pretty crazy. I mean, it's very, I personally just feel like equal respect. It should go in all ways. And yeah, it it is cultural appropriation and it is continued misguided stereotypes that continue to drive things surrounding Saint Patrick's Day.

And there are ways that I feel like even I think about when I was a kid, right? And I guess I kind of reclaimed it in some ways. But I even think about they used to have this movie. Me and my brother loved it on Disney Channel that they used to play every single St. Patricks Day. Luck of the Irish. Oh, about the kid that like gets descended. From Leprechaun, Yeah. And then the bad. Leprechaun steals his families luck. Exactly, and that is one of the. Most racist fucking movies, yeah. Like now talk about.

Like monster leprechaun that. One. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, like, and now I'm like, oh, that was a little. Can we even talk about you? Like, yeah, there was that. And then like all the Leprechaun movies. Yep. Like. There's been like, what? More than four of them? I. Think he's like 6. Like, it's kind of almost, you know how you. Know how I kind of treat those those those films are kind of like one of those Sharknado films. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a little. I can see that. Like that's the equivalent of them.

I could see that you just get. Crazier and crazier with every single iteration. What was? The last one you released. I don't that is a really good question I think. Sharknado or leprechaun. The Leprechaun. I feel like they released. They did. I think they did know. I think they did. One in the early 2000s with Snoop Dogg, Yes. He was in one of those, no? He was, but I'm saying I'm I'm pretty sure I could have sworn I saw an I. Think it was Leprechaun goes to the hood. It got back to the hood, back to there's Leprechaun back 2003.

There you go. I know because I remember it came out when I graduated and I was like, what is this horror show? Oh my God, this is the worst thing I've ever seen. But it was funny as fuck. Yeah, and apparently there is actually going to be a new Leprechaun movie. That's what it was, That's what it. Was development at Lionsgate and it's supposed to be a reimagining of the whole like cult horror franchise that was created around Leprechaun? If it's a reimagining, I'm interested because then that means it's actually genuinely going to be fucking scary and not just like Kitchen.

She the way that the original Leprechaun movies. Became yeah, it's supposed to actually bring back practical effects. They're going to do a new film. They're going to mix horror and comedy similarly to what the Leprechaun movies did. So it's still going to be, it's still going to be campy like Evil Dead. It's. Still going to be campy 100%. Wait, wait there. I OK updated information word. Davis plays the title role in every film except for there's a 2014 movie that's outside it is called Leprechaun Origins and 2018 there was one that came out Leprechaun returns.

So I think that's what you're thinking of news. The 2018. One and they were done by. The new one I know there was one that. Hasn't come out yet. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think I've been seeing the the the talks about that. Yeah, because the last one with Warwick Davis, well, Warwick Davis was 2003. Yeah, Warwick Davis. Like, I mean, come on the the accolades. Warwick Davis. We all love you, Warwick Davis. Like we. Come on, you're a G. You what? He actually is one of my favorite people and he's such a great human being.

Yes, adore him. But yeah, like that was the last one with him and there was multiple. There was leprechaun, leprechaun, 2 leprechaun, 3 leprechaun, 4IN space leprechaun. In the hood so bad and. Then there was Leprechaun. Back to the hood. Yeah, I think that's the one that had Snoop in it. I think that's the one that had Snoop as well. Yeah, Oh my God, yeah. Because I think one of I think in one of the hood movies, in the the leprechaun hood movies and I, this lives in my memory is a fever dream.

I do not remember if it's the first one or the second one where he curses a woman. He's cursing the woman, and she becomes like her lips, like the way that everybody has their stupid surgeries now. Yeah. The big giant lips. The big. Giant lips, big boobs, big ass, and it just keeps growing and growing and growing until she explodes. That is why. I'm pretty sure that was in either the the first hood or back to the hood one. And it's definitely one of the things that stuck in my head because this came out back before the huge trend of people getting the BBLS and getting the big the lip injections and getting all this stuff.

And I'm just, I was like, oh, look at the health. Fucking art imitates real life. God, it's like crazy but. Yeah, she, I remember because she just, she like she's trying to run away from the leprechaun. And he's just like Dee Dee, Dee Dee. And he's like casting his evil spell. And all of a sudden her lips start going and it gets so big and she starts looking like a duck. And then her boobs get so big and her ass gets so big that she can't fit through the door frame. Oh my God, she's. Stuck trying to run away from the fucking leprechaun in the door frame and then she the the frame breaks and then she gets a couple of feet and then you just just explodes into a shower of blood and gut.

Jesus. Christ, fantastic lives in my brain forever. And I mean, hey, they still actually play all those movies on the Sci-fi Channel literally every year on Saint Patrick. 'S day, son of a bitch. Yup, still to this day there is the Leprechaun marathon on the Sci-fi Channel. I can't but. It's pretty crazy. Tangent notwithstanding of this, the Irish, the actual Irish Ireland has been celebrating this. The Saint Patrick's Day is the national day and it was been there. They've been doing it since the 9th and the 10th centuries.

Yes, and it it's it's it was just a feast day and it literally just started in the early 1600s due to a a Waterford born Franciscan scholar known as Luke Wadding and Saint Patrick's Day became a holy day of obligation for Catholics in Ireland. And it also was a feast day in the Church of Ireland and part which, you know part of the Anglican Communion. The Church calendar avoids observance of Saints, feasts during certain solemnities. Solemnities. I can't. Say solemnities, Solemnities. And an anemone move like moving a Saints day to the time outside of those periods.

So Saint Patrick's Day is occasionally affected by this requirement and especially when it falls during Holy Week. Yes. So this happened in 1940 when Saint Patrick's Day was officially observed on the 3rd of April to avoid it coinciding with Palm Sunday, and then again in 2008 8 where it was officially observed on the 15th of March, the Ides of March. Saint Patrick's Day will not fall in within a Holy Week until 2160. So we're good. Interesting. OK. However, popular festivities may still be head on the 17th of held on the 17th of March or on a weekend near the feast day.

So we're looking at the 14th, my birthday, the 15th being the party days because Saint Patrick's Day this year falls on a Tuesday. Yeah, I actually have somebody that I work with in my day-to-day office scenario that he actually takes off for Saint Patrick's Day to be able to go and have celebrations on physical Saint Patrick's. Day, yeah, I mean in it, it wasn't until 19 O3 that Saint Patrick's Day became an official public holiday in Ireland due to the Bank Holiday Act of 19 O 3. And this was something that the English introduced into Ireland.

Yes, definitely makes sense. So the first Saint Patrick's Day parade was held in 19 O 3IN Waterford, hundreds of years after the first parade was held in North America. That's very interesting actually. The week of Saint Patricks Day 1903 had been declared Irish Language Week by the Gaelic League and in Waterford they opted to have a procession on the 15th of March. Cool, okay. The procession comprised of the Mayor and members of the Waterford Corporation, the Trades Hall and the various trade unions and bands who included the Barrack St. Band and the Thomas Francis Meager Band.

The ban. The parade began at the premises of the Gaelic of the Gaelic League in George's Street and finished in the People's Park where the public were addressed by the Mayor and other dignitaries. On Tuesday, March 17th, most of the Waterford businesses, including public houses, were closed and marching bands paraded as they had for two days previously. That's that's basically what happened. And then in 1916, the Irish Violent Volunteers, which was an Irish nationalist paramilitary organization, held parades throughout Ireland and the authorities recorded 38 parades involving over 6000 marchers, almost half of whom were reported to be armed.

The following month, the Irish Volunteers launched the Easter Rising against British rule. This marked the beginning of the Irish revolutionary period and LED the Irish War of Independence, led the to the Irish War of Independence and Civil War. During this time, Saint Patrick's Day celebrations in Ireland were muted. Although the day was sometimes chosen to hold large political rallies, which was pretty cool, celebrations remain low key. After the creation of the Irish Free State, the only state organized observance was a military procession in the Trooping of the Colors and an Irish language Mass attended by government ministers.

In 1927, the Irish Free State government banned the selling of alcohol on Saint Patrick's Day, although it remained legal in Northern Ireland. The ban was not repealed until 1961. The first official state sponsored Saint Patrick's Day parade in Dublin took place in 1931. Public Saint Patrick's Day festivities in Ireland have been cancelled three times, all for public health reasons. In 2001 they were postponed in May due to the foot and mouth outbreak, while in 2020 and 2021 they were cancelled outright because of COVID.

Yes, in Northern Ireland, which is We don't talk about Northern Ireland because it's still owned by the English. The celebration of Saint Patrick's Day was affected by the sectarian divisions. A majority of the population who were Protestant Ulster Unionists, who saw themselves primarily as British citizens, while a substantial minority were Catholic Irish nationalists who saw themselves primarily as Irish. Although it was a public holiday, Northern Ireland's Unionist government did not officially observe Saint Patrick's Day during this conflict, known as The Troubles, which is from the late 1960s to the late 1990s.

Public Saint Patrick's Day celebrations were rare and tended to be associated with the Catholic community. In 1976, Loyalists detonated a car bomb outside of a pub crowded with Catholics celebrating Saint Patrick's Day in Duncanon. 4 civilians were killed and many were injured. However, some Protestant unionists attempted to reclaim the festival and in 1985 the Orange Order held its own Saint Patrick's Day parade. Since the end of the conflict in 1998, there have been cross community Saint Patrick's Day parades in towns throughout Northern Ireland which have attracted thousands of spectators.

In the mid 1990's the Government of the Republic of Ireland began a campaign to use Saint Patrick's Day to showcase Ireland and its culture. The government set up a group called St. Patricks Festival which aims of creating a world class national festival to project internationally an accurate image of Ireland as a creative, professional and sophisticated country with wide appeal. Not the fucking racist bullshit that everybody thought that we were. No, for sure, and I would say if you if anybody here in listening needs like a good hey, I want to know maybe a little bit more about Irish culture and still have a fun watch on Saint Patrick's Day.

Dairy Girls on Netflix is absolutely phenomenal. Like when I came back from Ireland, I missed Ireland so much. I binge Dairy Girls in an entire day, and it actually tells a really interesting story about young people growing up within the Troubles and everything that happened, including the final vote that essentially ended that period. Yeah. So it leads all the way forward. And I think that's a really cool way. If you want to know more about the culture, how Ireland was affected, that might be then the watch for you versus let's say the Leprechaun marathon on Cyber Channel.

I mean, let's call it. Let's call a spade a spade. This is a International Day. A lot of people recognize it. A lot of people celebrated. Like I'm sure there's still Irish celebrations or Saint Patrick's Day celebrations in Portugal. I I can't confirm nor deny that well. Then it's a bar. The bars are always going to take advantage. I will say this, there are Irish bars, but as far as like, Oh yeah, we celebrate Saint Patrick's Day and it becomes like a a common thing as it is here. I No, most likely not.

Right. I mean, I'm Saint Patrick's Day is observed in different Irish pubs throughout the entire world. Oh, 100%, you know. You're you're, you're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah, It's observed in Germany, it's been observed in England, it's been observed in Scotland. It's I'm sure like maybe some countries don't like especially if they're not alcohol drinking countries. So Middle East is out. Yeah, no, they wouldn't by any, by any stretch of the imagination. And a great example of that is I'm a huge fan of OE Sunny in Philadelphia.

And the whole idea is they have an Irish pub. So one of the best episodes of the show is when they decide that they're going to have a car service to drive around drunk people on Saint Patrick's Day, only to serve them more beer from Paddy's Pub inside of the panel van. That's hysterical. And it becomes an entire like comedy on D doing this really awful like totally racist stereotyping leprechaun character which is totally played as like AD what the hell is wrong with you D? You should. Burn. And it's hilarious.

And they're like, we want to get out and people are getting sick in the back of the panel on because they're forcing more alcohol down their throats. So what you're trying to tell us is Philadelphia came up with Uber before Uber became Uber? Yeah, Always sunny Philadelphia went. You know what would really help elevate Patty's Bob? A creepy panel van where we'll trap where we'll trap good looking women. Oh my God. From You know, Dennis.

Apparently even Russia celebrates Saint Patrick's Day. Malta celebrates Saint Patrick's Day, Spain because Saint Patrick's Day celebrations like Norway, Switzerland, Canada like. Feel like as long as you have some form of like, maybe like a small Christian constituency like you. Don't even know it's it's if you have a small Irish population. You'll find a way there will be to incorporate it, even if it's just from like a marketing and capitalism standpoint. Argentina has a big one. You can say for for different countries independence days.

I mean Portugal has their own. I know a couple other countries have their own too as well and they'll celebrate it here. Yeah. Oh my God, so I'm reading this. Saint Patrick's Day parades are now held in many locations across Japan. Interesting. OK this. First parade was held in Tokyo, was organized by the Irish network Japan INGA in 1992. The Irish Association of Korea has celebrated Saint Patrick's Day since 1976 in Seoul, and Malaysia has the Saint Patrick's Society of Selangor founded in 1925, and they've been organizing A yearly Saint Patrick's Day ball.

Wow. Do they also serve fried chicken during the events? Chicken fried chicken Fried chicken. What? What? Would you like to elaborate, Crimson? Yes, I will. I know I'm I'm looking at you like, huh? No, it's because the reason why I mentioned that is because during the holidays, and I mentioned mostly for Christmas, they actually like focus on actually a, a, a fried chicken dinner. He's good, he's good. No, but I'm serious, like they actually they actually from from what I've heard and from from what people have told me, like over there like KSC is like top tier.

Yeah. Apparently it's like it it this is what I fucking hate. Like especially like whenever it comes to like something like McDonald's or anything like fast food related. Yeah, it just shits all over the ones in the US, which it started here. How? Because we do not have good FDA. Laws. Oh yeah, no. That's why. They get away with too much shit. We let way too much garbage in our food now the. The Oh my God, no. Because like on top of all the racism and the, the craziness that is associated with like all the history between the Irish, the British and all that fun stuff.

Our multiple wars, our famines, our, the fact that our culture was destroyed. And now it's a fucking international thing for people just to get a little fun and March in a parade and all that fun stuff. There are some spooky Yuki shit that is fucking associated with Saint Patrick. 'S day. I'm always down to hear about Spooky Yuki. I know you have some cued up. I do have some spooky bitch hit me. So one of the big things about the spooky Yuki's is in Irish culture they had an actual like Irish heritage without knowing a podrom, which is from a hurling stick.

Yeah, and how that hurling stick, they try to claim that you're not. They had characters of barmaids and stereotypes that used to carry around these hurling sticks. Yeah. And for, like, context, hurling is actually a sport in Ireland. It is. So the idea was like some of the offensive imagery and stereotypes permeated from Saint Patrick's Day events with these characters of Irish drunkards and barmaids with harmful stereotypes and ignoring the diverse and complex nature of the Irish culture. So instead, they, like, bury it down to.

Oh watch now the barmaid is going to chase you with the hurling step. Jesus Christ and all of your Irish drunkard friends are going to be keeled over in the middle of the street and this like paraphernalia really trivialized and generated like tons of unnecessary waste. So like Shamrock shaped sunglasses or leprechaun hats are all a part of that environmental degradication, which is all into, in my opinion, very spooky. Oopy. I agree. And the reality is, is that we're never going to stop celebrating Saint Patrick's Day.

No, even in ways that we've like reclaimed it. So like the ways that, you know, we've, for example, we have the Irish society here in New York that does Irish language performances of popular plays, and we have societies putting together Irish step dancing troupes that actually go out and perform. But a lot of this was just hijacked for the ability to mock and demean and perpetuate stereotypes. Yep. Even though we've been trying to reclaim it, I think it's really almost hard to kind of separate those things.

It's almost like you have, you don't have. If you have one, you're sometimes gonna, you're more than likely always going to get the other. It's. True. I mean the origin of the Kiss me I'm Irish thing. They know that you see on like so many freaking shirts and and whatever is actually a bastardization about the luck that you received from kissing the Blarney Stone. Yes. And here's the fun fact about the Blarney Stone. Don't, don't, don't kiss the blarney. Stone, please don't do it. The Irish people pee on it, Yeah, so that stupid tourists will kiss their piss.

Yeah, they find it very hilarious. They do, so don't kiss the blarney stone unless you want like, you know, pee lips. Yummy. Yummy, yummy. I can't. I really fucking. Can't. And then people are like, oh, why did I get sick? And I'm like, well, you're using a piece of stone, but you're also kissing lots and lots of piss that other people have kissed, so good luck with that. I can't. And like, a lot of that dark history is just uncovering so many of these unsettling truths about what Saint Patrick's Day has kind of boiled Irish heritage down to, when Irish heritage is already trying to fully, like, trying to reclaim itself.

They don't want the language to disappear. They don't want pieces of the Pagan beliefs to disappear. Yep. And ironically, the Pagan believers were more accepting of other religions then the Christians that came and tried to convert everybody. It's true. And even then, it was all about conversion numbers. It wasn't about, oh, because we think this is helpful. It was, Oh well, we need everyone to be Catholic. We need everyone to fit into our idea of rightness in reality. Because the other thing is, is another reason why they put Patrick's feast day on this day is also because it coincides with the Pagan tradition of Ostara which is the start of spring.

Yeah. And a lot of what they did when they actually were doing these acts of violence was they forced conversions upon the pagans. They did. They destroyed sacred sites very much and they actually performed an executions those who refuse to abandon their beliefs. Yep, that like the the green has always been associated, the fire has always been associated, the Shamrock has always been associated and it's actually true Saint Patrick, because this symbol was so prominent in the Pagan religions, he did use it a three leafed Clover to explain the Holy Trinity to his converts.

So everybody. And that's why 4 leaf clovers are considered lucky, yes, and not three, you know, because it was our way of kind of taking it back. Yeah, like I remember when I was in school, that was something they used to teach us. We'd actually cut out A3 lift Clover. Yep. And we would have to draw like, oh, this is where God the Father would be. This is the middle where God the Son and Holy Spirit. Like that was such a like, and it's so crazy because I've been talking about it a lot recently just because of like conversations in my life and like my partner and I having very different upbringings when it comes to that.

Yep, we'll like just talk about it just to talk about it because we find it so fascinating. And one of the things is like, we were like, they were trying to make sure that kids at like 5, like I was 5 and I was doing this 6 Jesus were like under like this is the right way of understanding it. And then as you grow older and you actually start looking into these things, you're like, Oh my God. Like they were essentially, I don't want to call it brainwashing because, you know, I do believe in Jesus.

I do believe in God, but like the brainwashing of children to adhere to a certain reality forced upon us of history just to make them look better is very insane to me. And especially around Saint Patrick's Day as we're talking about it. I'm literally getting flashes back to like the things they made us do in school. I mean, there's, it's still, it's still constantly being done on a on a regular basis. Oh, 100%. Not even just here in the US. Yeah, it's everywhere. I mean. Let's be real. I'm just, I'm just going to throw Germany under.

The bus here. Do it, do it. They don't even talk about world. War Two, we love Germany. So in Germany they don't talk about world. It's like, oh, what do you mean nothing happened? We don't know what you're talking. About there was no war on bossing, say. We, we, we didn't, we didn't, we didn't have, we didn't have slaves. We were talking about we, we didn't put any people in camps. Yeah, OK. Oh. OK. Oh, OK. Sure, buddy, whatever you say. Yeah. And honestly, when you think about it like the way that this devastation really caused this harrowing chapter in Ireland's history, it and how it goes unacknowledged in the contemporary Saint Patrick's Day celebrations would likely qualify under today's standards as cultural genocide.

It was. It was 100% cultural, cultural genocide. And we're here learning this alternate reality of history. But let's. Drink green beer and be happy about it. Exactly. It's like. So that's what makes it so complicated. I think it is a very. Complicated like socio economic and all sorts of other ways because like listen I know for a fact because multiple friends of mine do own bars or worked at bars. The and.

This is why COVID was so devastating for a lot of bars. I know for a fact that their entire revenue is usually made on Saint Patrick's Day. The the entire, like their entire year's revenue is usually made on Saint Patrick's Day or the days leading up to it or the weekend of. And so they've come to depend on the drunken revelry and the stupidity that happens from people just going out and celebrating this event, this this day as as a lifeblood. So it becomes the thing like, do you sit there and turn around and say, because like, it's been made clear actually believe it or not, by some peoples in church, in the church where they want to reclaim Saint Patrick's Day as a church thing and they want to continue to have fun, but they want to bring the piety back then to Saint Patrick.

And so like that, that becomes a thing where it's like, is it a religious holiday? Is it a party day? Is it a racist fucker thing day? Like, and how do you find is it just to do? Like listen, we live in an in a hellscape. Oh hell yeah. OK, do I want an excuse to continue partying 3 days after my birthday? Yes I fucking do. But I will never forget the actual roots of the the problem. Exactly like. All things can be true at once, right? We can see it as it's being reclaimed. I know, especially in New York, being reclaimed by the Irish societies.

Yeah. That I have general familiarity with. Yeah. It's also something that is a lot of the imagery is blatantly racist, So racist. And then you have. Oh, but it also helps put food on the table for, you know. Sue. Allen, who is a bartender at her local Irish pub, who just needs to be able to make it by. Yeah. I need to be able to pay my rent exactly. It's like it has a hand in so many different cups. It's like, I don't think it's going to be possible to ever be eradicated. And I'm not calling for it to be eradicated, but I'm calling is for education.

Yeah, like, and that's what I think is so great about the Irish Society is putting on the Irish Repertory Theatre now, and it starts with Saint Patrick's Day. They start like the top of their New Year schedule and they do not only shows in full Irish language, but they'll also do them in English so people can understand, understand them and then give them the translations and vice versa. And really starting to spread that education. And it's why I was like, oh, you really want to know about Saint Patrick's Day?

You want to really dig into the Irish history, Watch something like Dairy Girls that was made by an Irish woman who it's based off of her childhood teen hood because they're really like, you know, like 16. Yeah. And it's about her experiences within the Troubles. Yeah. And she even has a memoir that you guys can check. Out. I know it's true because like in every single thing that you ever see about the Irish, it's always we're drunks, yeah, or we're we like to fight. We do, but or we're violent or we're a mess or, you know, like stuff like that.

And these are such, these are insane stereotypes that have literally lived hundreds of years with, you know, and then it only gets worse with Saint Patrick's Day. Exactly. Yet again, I, I get to this point where it's just, it's like so many people are just like, yeah, what you going to do? Yeah, like fuck you. It's like, let's educate. Like, I mean, heck, a lot of the bar culture in Ireland, and I experienced this when I was there, comes from places of community. Yeah, like when I was there. Pubs are meant to be a.

Exactly, like people would just come up and talk to you, they want to know about your day. They would have bands where in every single pub I went. To music is a thing. Look, we still, we do actually observe that and we have in the past here at the Phoenix Gate where we say she's she's Shilleli Law. Oh yeah, I I that is my yearly tradition. I go and I see, if possible, at least one of their shows. Exactly. And they really, they, they sing a lot of wonderful bar culture songs and they do the same.

Like when you sit in the bar, they will actually do like groups of people will sing together all the time. That's the thing. You'll take turns singing your favorite song. They don't even need to be traditional Irish bar songs. No, and it's really rich and interesting. It's not about, oh, hey, they're a bunch of drunkards. Which I mean, look, listen, there are drunkards in every culture. The Irish culture is one of the most intricate and rich tapestries that are out there because this is this is a culture that has survived thousands of years.

This is a culture, this is one of the first people that were documented in the world. We were at one point a cultural hub for a lot of things, before all the different takeovers and wars and shit. Like that? Yeah. So like, for me, do I use it as an excuse to continue partying for my birthday? Yes. But I also have gone out of my way to make sure that I've educated myself on my culture. And I kind of wish that, you know, if this is going to be my final thought for this because, you know, we got to start wrapping it.

I would wish that other people would actually give the, you know, even though it is such a big party day, give it the same respect that you would give Juneteenth exactly, you know, or even Chinese New Year or any of these other holidays that recognize other cultures and faiths and everything like that. And not just an excuse to go out, get stupid and get drunk and then get arrested. Exactly because that shouldn't be the prime focus. Like take the time to really get to know the culture. Read from Irish authors, Watch television or movies written by Irish artists.

Try to watch a movie or ATV show with subtitles on listening to the Irish language. Exactly. And I will say like things like HBO Max, they've actually now you can watch things just everyday shows you may love. It's true, Gaelic, it's true. Like I will say that about HBO Max. They've actually gone out of their way to be very inclusive at languages. Duolingo actually will, and I did this for a while before I switched to trying to learn Portuguese and then me introducing myself to Spanish. They teach Irish, yeah.

It's not Gaelic. Gaelic unfortunately is considered a dead language, which is why everyone in who can speak Gaelic is trying to bring it back. But you can learn Irish on Duolingo. You can learn Irish on any of these language sites. I highly suggest you do. Yeah. Or learn like a vocab word a day. Yeah. It's not hard. You know, you don't even have to do the full Duolingo package, No? Yeah, Ali, if you want I can, we can wrap it with one of my favorite fucking sayings. I would love that. Pokémon means go fuck yourself beautiful or you can say cilantro which is just bless or luck of you.

Luck to you. So either way, if you're one of those Dicks that listens to us because you hate us, bug Mahone. If you're one of our faithful Phoenix nation, Cilantro and I hope you enjoy your green beer. Have a lot of fun, but do it responsibly. Yep. Thanks, Mom. You're welcome. Oh my God. OK. Any closing thoughts from you, Crimson? No, I mean we, I'm pretty sure we covered a pretty good amount. Wow, a man. Gotten Kitty claws on my leg OK from fucking Florida. Kitty said. Give us a little more there, Crimson.

Podcast Kitty said. Poke Mahonia balls. No. That's not even my case. It was loaded with my leg, but yeah. Close enough. But yeah, no, I don't really have anything else besides, I mean, we pretty much covered a good amount on that. All right then. So we'll say Slonchen. Hopefully you guys again enjoy Saint Patrick's Day responsibly. Don't get arrested, and if you do, sorry, we ain't got the bail money. Sorry, not right. Not in this economy. No bye, bye.

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